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	<title>Comments on: The State That I Am In</title>
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	<description>.....................................   &#34;Only dull and powerless artists defend their art by reference to sincerity&#34;    ---Kazimir Malevich............................................</description>
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		<title>By: Darin Vieira</title>
		<link>http://blog.sfmoma.org/2009/08/the-state-that-i-am-in/comment-page-1/#comment-43857</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ and Eric, I appreciate your commentary surrounding the politics of professional practice and evaluation from an experiential perspective. Although I think it is important to understand that I am in no way proposing that this building “promotes an agenda for the Obama administration,” but rather presupposes a manner of architectural practice that has yet to be embraced, both formally and ideologically, by the discourse and society as a whole. Likewise it is crucial to understand that there is a programmatic subversion taking place in this building that favors the “everyday working people,” allocating perimeter office space to the non-managerial positions and confining private offices to the interior, therefore offering a more democratic disposition for the office floor. I do value an individual’s experience of a building, but details such as these are often overlooked by sensational evaluations. Furthermore, it is equally pertinent to understand that the conjecture of fallacy expressed in the posture of the building is a direct result of yet another strategic move to promote this structure as a Democratic space; minimizing the footprint to allocate an area for public interaction at the street level as opposed to a confined, squatty extrusion of the site so typical of the city’s landscape. Regardless of these details, my commentary is specifically directed toward the aesthetic politics that too often reduce the practice of architecture to style and accommodation. True change cannot be accommodating and must always be prospective, a political sentiment that Morphosis and other so-called deconstructivists have argued for at bay in the face of criticism over the last 30-40 years – one that is only now finding port in the current desperate socio-economic-political landscape. 
As a side note: In November 2009 Thom Mayne was selected by to President Obama’s Committee on the Arts and the Humanities 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ and Eric, I appreciate your commentary surrounding the politics of professional practice and evaluation from an experiential perspective. Although I think it is important to understand that I am in no way proposing that this building “promotes an agenda for the Obama administration,” but rather presupposes a manner of architectural practice that has yet to be embraced, both formally and ideologically, by the discourse and society as a whole. Likewise it is crucial to understand that there is a programmatic subversion taking place in this building that favors the “everyday working people,” allocating perimeter office space to the non-managerial positions and confining private offices to the interior, therefore offering a more democratic disposition for the office floor. I do value an individual’s experience of a building, but details such as these are often overlooked by sensational evaluations. Furthermore, it is equally pertinent to understand that the conjecture of fallacy expressed in the posture of the building is a direct result of yet another strategic move to promote this structure as a Democratic space; minimizing the footprint to allocate an area for public interaction at the street level as opposed to a confined, squatty extrusion of the site so typical of the city’s landscape. Regardless of these details, my commentary is specifically directed toward the aesthetic politics that too often reduce the practice of architecture to style and accommodation. True change cannot be accommodating and must always be prospective, a political sentiment that Morphosis and other so-called deconstructivists have argued for at bay in the face of criticism over the last 30-40 years – one that is only now finding port in the current desperate socio-economic-political landscape.<br />
As a side note: In November 2009 Thom Mayne was selected by to President Obama’s Committee on the Arts and the Humanities<br /><br />
<a href="http://www.pcah.gov/members.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcah.gov/members.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.sfmoma.org/2009/08/the-state-that-i-am-in/comment-page-1/#comment-30117</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, here, I cannot fathom the reasoning with which Mr. Viera promotes an agenda for Obama, when the building plans were originally coming from operating under the Bush administrations. Eric sounds like a professional, but Viera digresses only to condemn what really isn&#039;t conservatism, but a complete geographical change in perspective that Eric recognizes and that I also have serious problems with.

You see, America has not really changed that much in the profesional world in terms of Architectural studies and multi-practitioner &quot;critique&quot;(huh)? but Eric recognizes the fallacies involved in the structure and apparent costs involved) and is not afraid to voice a professional opinion.

Perhaps Viera could be a little more honest, and decide formally what he considers to be real change, and the effect that change has upon normal, everyday, U.S. government working people -and also decidedly experienced architects and architecture as a profession. Heiman&#039;s comments are &quot;timely&quot; as well as accurate, in my own opinion. Sustainable &quot;green&quot; architecture is in truth a misnomer and if Viera knew who really is behind all of the work, maybe he could see clear to &quot;changing&quot; his own mind about why true conservatism and &quot;archaic notions of formal critique&quot; are taught at college and university levels so profoundly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, here, I cannot fathom the reasoning with which Mr. Viera promotes an agenda for Obama, when the building plans were originally coming from operating under the Bush administrations. Eric sounds like a professional, but Viera digresses only to condemn what really isn&#8217;t conservatism, but a complete geographical change in perspective that Eric recognizes and that I also have serious problems with.</p>
<p>You see, America has not really changed that much in the profesional world in terms of Architectural studies and multi-practitioner &#8220;critique&#8221;(huh)? but Eric recognizes the fallacies involved in the structure and apparent costs involved) and is not afraid to voice a professional opinion.</p>
<p>Perhaps Viera could be a little more honest, and decide formally what he considers to be real change, and the effect that change has upon normal, everyday, <span class="caps">U.S. </span>government working people -and also decidedly experienced architects and architecture as a profession. Heiman&#8217;s comments are &#8220;timely&#8221; as well as accurate, in my own opinion. Sustainable &#8220;green&#8221; architecture is in truth a misnomer and if Viera knew who really is behind all of the work, maybe he could see clear to &#8220;changing&#8221; his own mind about why true conservatism and &#8220;archaic notions of formal critique&#8221; are taught at college and university levels so profoundly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never gone inside but I do find the outside cold and forbidding with no effort to blend or compliment the space around it. But then, it was planned and built during the last administration so the bunker mentality doesn&#039;t surprise me. I&#039;m surprised that you were allowed to take photos because everytime I&#039;ve tried to take the most innocent photo of some portion of a federal building (ANY federal building), I&#039;ve been stopped by a guard. 
I also wonder what the air quality is in the building for the people who work there. I&#039;ve worked in some climate controlled buildings and found that the air hot and stale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never gone inside but I do find the outside cold and forbidding with no effort to blend or compliment the space around it. But then, it was planned and built during the last administration so the bunker mentality doesn&#8217;t surprise me. I&#8217;m surprised that you were allowed to take photos because everytime I&#8217;ve tried to take the most innocent photo of some portion of a federal building (ANY federal building), I&#8217;ve been stopped by a guard.<br />
I also wonder what the air quality is in the building for the people who work there. I&#8217;ve worked in some climate controlled buildings and found that the air hot and stale.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric Heiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Heiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Vieria, thanks for your comment. 

Since you didn&#039;t address this in your reply, I&#039;m curious to know if you find one&#039;s individual experience of a building to be a worthy lens in which to critique? I do admire (and laud in the post) both the Federal Building&#039;s sustainable and formal accomplishments. I have no axe to grind with buildings of concrete and steel, nor was I looking &quot;to be dazzled by glamor (sic) of excess.&quot; I&#039;m simply trying to put into words how it makes me feel as a citizen, rather than as a design practitioner or architecture lover. If anything, that seems most important to me riding by this building on my bike as often as I do. 

Granted it has a different purpose and much more forgiving site, but Renzo Piano&#039;s California Academy of Sciences, also here in San Francisco, is a possible foil in this discussion. This building is equally ambitious on the sustainable front, and while Piano&#039;s forms may be more muted (though also rendered in concrete and steel), the experience there feels much more in line with the building&#039;s intent and surrounding context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Vieria, thanks for your comment. </p>
<p>Since you didn&#8217;t address this in your reply, I&#8217;m curious to know if you find one&#8217;s individual experience of a building to be a worthy lens in which to critique? I do admire (and laud in the post) both the Federal Building&#8217;s sustainable and formal accomplishments. I have no axe to grind with buildings of concrete and steel, nor was I looking &#8220;to be dazzled by glamor (sic) of excess.&#8221; I&#8217;m simply trying to put into words how it makes me feel as a citizen, rather than as a design practitioner or architecture lover. If anything, that seems most important to me riding by this building on my bike as often as I do. </p>
<p>Granted it has a different purpose and much more forgiving site, but Renzo Piano&#8217;s California Academy of Sciences, also here in San Francisco, is a possible foil in this discussion. This building is equally ambitious on the sustainable front, and while Piano&#8217;s forms may be more muted (though also rendered in concrete and steel), the experience there feels much more in line with the building&#8217;s intent and surrounding context.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darin Vieira</title>
		<link>http://blog.sfmoma.org/2009/08/the-state-that-i-am-in/comment-page-1/#comment-20745</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From the street, Mayne’s building speaks to a bunker mentality, not democratic idealism. What we really need now is architecture that tilts—like our new president—toward inspiring hope and change, not highlighting what divides us.&quot;

Nevermind that this building accomplishes - at its scale -  what no other building on earth has done to make tangible use of theories on sustainability; defending the promise of Obama&#039;s stance on our &quot;green&quot; future as a nation. The irony of this editorial lies in the author&#039;s inability to see past archaic notions of formal critique, that somehow steel and concrete represent the solid, cold hands of conservatism. Equating the presence of this building to the past two terms of American presidency is absurd. Do your research. Understand that both the form, and function of this building - so dependent on one another that they can not be seen as separate - are an answer to the call made by the Obama administration for a revitalization of American inventiveness. Perhaps the &quot;state we are in&quot; is the problem - still begging to be dazzled by glamor of excess as opposed to the unsettling nature of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the street, Mayne’s building speaks to a bunker mentality, not democratic idealism. What we really need now is architecture that tilts—like our new president—toward inspiring hope and change, not highlighting what divides us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nevermind that this building accomplishes &#8211; at its scale &#8211;  what no other building on earth has done to make tangible use of theories on sustainability; defending the promise of Obama&#8217;s stance on our &#8220;green&#8221; future as a nation. The irony of this editorial lies in the author&#8217;s inability to see past archaic notions of formal critique, that somehow steel and concrete represent the solid, cold hands of conservatism. Equating the presence of this building to the past two terms of American presidency is absurd. Do your research. Understand that both the form, and function of this building &#8211; so dependent on one another that they can not be seen as separate &#8211; are an answer to the call made by the Obama administration for a revitalization of American inventiveness. Perhaps the &#8220;state we are in&#8221; is the problem &#8211; still begging to be dazzled by glamor of excess as opposed to the unsettling nature of change.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Taylor Wright</title>
		<link>http://blog.sfmoma.org/2009/08/the-state-that-i-am-in/comment-page-1/#comment-20738</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting perspective, I should visit the building to find my own. As a nerd I can understand the Star Wars comments in a way that doesn&#039;t condescend. As a piece of architecture I&#039;m compelled, as a citizen I&#039;m waylaid and feel the style becomes very reminiscent of Brazil (third act) in an unknowingly self deprecating manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting perspective, I should visit the building to find my own. As a nerd I can understand the Star Wars comments in a way that doesn&#8217;t condescend. As a piece of architecture I&#8217;m compelled, as a citizen I&#8217;m waylaid and feel the style becomes very reminiscent of Brazil (third act) in an unknowingly self deprecating manner.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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